Just when I’m wondering what to write about for the next volume of Swing Shift, along comes one of my readers with an excellent suggestion.  Have I mentioned before that I have the best readers?

Here’s a suggestion for a future Swing Shift, it has to do with rejection.

You’ve written about rejecting others at every stage – not answering ads, not replying to emails, chatting but not meeting, meeting but invoking your escape phrase, even swinging and deciding not to do it again.

But how does it feel on the other side? Have you been rejected at any of these stages? Did it lead you to think you were doing something ‘wrong’ or re-evaluate yourselves in any way? (If it hasn’t happened, how do you think you’ll react?)

Have we been rejected? Of course!!!  I think it would be exceptionally arrogant of us not to expect to get rejected, perhaps even more often that we’re not.  Rejection in the lifestyle takes many forms

  • We’ve contacted couples that we find attractive, only to be either ignored or told “No thanks, we’re not interested”

Veronica:  Usually people just ignore us.  This pisses me off.  If you are not interested, just send us a quick  email.    Hubman and I email everyone within 48 hours of receiving your email .  Be polite dammit!

  • We’ve gone a date with a couple, only to be blown off by them when we attempted to arrange a second date.

Veronica: This has happened once.  We had a date scheduled with them, but had to cancel due to PP deciding to projectile vomit a lot the night before.  Every time we tried to reschedule, they blew us off, citing scheduling issues.   This couple is another reason that we prefer people who are parents.  A couple who had kids would not have been huffy about this.

  • We’ve swapped with a couple, only to be blown off by them when we told them we wanted to see them again.

Veronica: We had one couple that did not want to see us after one swap, but they apparently had underlying relationship issues.  We also find that after the third swap sometimes people lose interest.  I think that sometime in the lifestyle people say that they want a long term couple, but are really looking for the constant “new”, and then after having sex a couple of times, it is not “new” anymore.

It is challenging, but we try not to take rejection personally.  When you are with other couples they could be having some relationship issues or other issues that we may know nothing about. Sometimes  after a dry spell or a bad date or some rejection I stomp my foot and pout about wanting to quit,  but I just brush myself off, take a day to lick my wounds and move on.

Whenever possible, we reject another couple as gently as possible.  No need to be insulting, right?  We feel strongly that every couple who contacts us at least deserves the courtesy of a response.  If it’s a couple we’re not interested in, we might say we’re not interested, or tell a little white lie [too far away, not enough time right now, etc].

There was one occasion where we had to be blunt and tell a couple they were bad in bed.  Not familiar with The Tale of Ned and Ann?  Look at the top of this page for that tab.

Recently, I told a couple we were not interested, but my timing really sucked.  I was chatting online with the male half of a couple who contacted us through one of the websites we belong to.  From their public pictures, they seemed like an attractive couple.  But while he and I were chatting, he gave us access to their private gallery, which included face pictures of both of them, and I reciprocated. Unfortunately, I didn’t think that she was attractive, and moments after that revelation, he asked if we would be interested in meeting for dinner sometime, and I declined the offer.  Coming right after I saw face pictures, the message was clear- I did not think that his wife was attractive.  Looking back, this was one of those times where a little while lie would have been better.

The lesson here is that while we feel that it pays to be direct and not lead a couple on, timing can be everything.

Veronica:  If this happens to you, tell them that the partner has to check the calendar and wait a few days to get back to them.  Then reject them.  Once again be polite.

As far as re-evaluating ourselves, I don’t think we’ve done that.  We’ve changed ‘the rules’ along the way and maybe questioned if we might have done something to turn a couple off, but we’re still who we are, you like us or you don’t.  And not everyone is going to like us, which is fine, though hard to believe ;-)

So while getting rejected sucks, it’s going to happen once in a while.  Be prepared for it, accept it when it happens, and move on.

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As always, readers comments are welcome.  For our readers in the lifestyle, what are your experiences with rejection?  Any horror stories to share?  We’re in need of suggestions for future editions of Swing Shift, so if you have any idea, please either leave your suggestion in the comments or e-mail me at hubman38 at gmail dot com if you’d prefer to remain anonymous to everyone else.

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  • 13messages

    Interesting post. Thanks for sharing your thoughts and experiences.

  • http://amorouschick.blogspot.com Amorous Rocker

    I think the couple who got huffy about y’all having to cancel because of PP being sick were just stupid. You possibly saved yourself some grief there. Things happen for a reason. ;) Or maybe I just understand better because I have quite a few friends that have kids and sometimes, they end up cancelling regular plans because their kid gets sick, hurt, the babysitter can’t come, etc. Shit happens, people need to get over it.

    I remember Ned and Ann. They seemed so fishy to me, lol.

    I love how direct and honest you and Veronica are. Though, I can see how timing would be important in these scenarios. ;) Great post!

  • mg

    Another good post. I agree with Amorous about the kidless couple. Anyone with a sense of empathy can understand a sick child is always more important, even if they don’t have any children of their own. Probably wouldn’t have been a very fun couple to hook up with anyways, no loss.
    I’m not too worried about rejection for myself, I’m pretty think skinned. My wife however, is a different story. Hopefully if we ever get in that situation, they’ll let us down easy, lol.

  • http://topaz-gemology.blogspot.com/ Topaz

    I like yours (and Veronica’s) attitudes about rejection. Not many people are comfortable in knowing that they’re not everyone’s ‘type’ – you know how hot you are and are comfortable in your own skin. Also keeping in mind other couples/people are going through there own turmoil/scheduling issues is an insight not many people are willing to afford others. I admire the confidence in you both.
    As for the couples you reject – I commend you for your affinity for gentleness and can appreciate having to get blunt sometimes. But question – were Ned & Ann the worst it ever got in terms of nixing the relationship where you had to be flat out honest?

  • http://swingers-diaries.blogsot.com southern swinger

    Good post Hubman. Think couples new to swinging and using internet ads to find new playmates should keep in mind that not all ads are from swingers but are placed by males who enjoy reading the profiles and lucking t pictures. Therefore when you respond to these ads you more than likely will not get a reply. Also some couples advertise they are not into one night stands and that lasting friendship is important but never seem to find anyone with whom they get with more than once or twice. For these reasons we suggest clubs as a place to meet. There are small swing clubs that hold a “meet and greet’ where couples can meet other like minded couples. There what you see and hear is what you get. On premise clubs with private and group rooms can be intimidating to a newbie but there are other clubs that are more comfortable.

  • GolfnRed

    I found this topic interesting, but kind of concerning. Rejection is part of every area of life where compatibility between humans is important. All of us, when we were single and dating, were attracted to certain people and certain people were attracted to each of us. Good times where usually had when those attractions happened at the same time.

    Now in swinging, remember that there are usually four people involved, not just two. As Hubman has written before, there are times when one partner is attracted to the another couple more than the other. And if you’re like my wife and I, unless we both find the other couple attracted, then we say “Thanks, but no thanks”. It’s simply part of life.

    We’ve been rejected at every stage over the years, and have probably rejected others at the various stages as well. We didn’t get a good feel from a profile, or from email. Our phone call was not what we thought it would be. When we met in person, they did not meet our expectations (usually, they didn’t look like their pictures). And yes, it’s happened after we had swapped with others. (That’s never the most comfortable, but if you really didn’t enjoy the first time, why would you want to do it again?)

    One piece of advice we would put out there, if you reject someone, do it nicely and politely. There was one couple we had written to on a website. They wrote back to us and said that they didn’t think we would be a good match. That’s fine, to each their own. A few months later, they had posted some new pictures. We dropped them a note saying we really liked the new pictures and best of luck to them since we knew that we weren’t their type. They email us back and said they had been really busy, but on second thought, they would love to meet for drinks. Well, they became one of our favorite play couples. So as Sean Connery learned, never say never.

    GolfnRed

  • http://hubmanshangout.wordpress.com/ hubman38

    13messages- It’s always a pleasure to share our thoughts and experiences, especially when readers let us know that they’ve found them useful!

    AR- I think you’re probably right about that couple. I like to think of it as their loss, not ours. Makes it easier to deal with not getting nekkid with a smokin’ hot woman…

    MG- Regarding your wife being a little more thin-skinned than you, I think it would be especially important for you to remind her how hot she is to you. Just a thought…

    Topaz- without a doubt, Ned and Ann were the worst, and it was REALLY uncomfortable. I felt pretty bad having to be that blunt during the conversation online.

    SouthernSwinger- we’re familiar with on-premise and no-play-on-site clubs, the problem for us is they’re an hour away in RI :-(

    GolfnRed- sounds like we have similar attitudes! And glad to hear that it eventually worked out with that one couple!

   

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