At the beginning of last weeks post, I solicited comments on the following column suggestion from an anonymous reader:

How do you balance and/or separate your “everyday” life and your “swinger” life?

Obviously your non-swinging friends and family and co-workers don’t know about this other side of your life. And your swinging friends aren’t the ones you’d invite to a family barbecue with your folks. Or a playdate with the kids. Or would you? Do you ever feel like you are leading a double life? Do you keep the two areas compartmentalized? Or do they bleed over into each other?

I’m curious about how people might approach that aspect of discreet polyamory.

Playfully Yours responded with the following:

I truly believe that it is a double life!  Sometimes it was hard and other times it was so exciting.
The hard part was when husbands would try and hook-up or meet outside of the initial arrangement.

I even had some call me after the couple broke up and wanted to be with me as well.  I didn’t do it!  It was more because he could be a sarcastic butthole.  I know it was his personality but I don’t want to deal with that 24/7.

It was hard when I said to Vanilla friends and family that I had plans.  What made it hard was those inquiring about a NEW man for myself and not disclosing where I went and dodging that bullet.  I ultimately said I was staying home and watching a movie or not feeling great and wanted to veg.  It helped not having to deal with all the questions.  Sometimes I did say I had a booty-call.  People do understand that.

I did find my sexual equal for 6 months….I miss that.

All in all it was a great sexual experience and learning more about myself.

First of all, thanks to Playfully Yours for the comment, we appreciate it!  We don’t have any family within a 4 hr drive, and explaining what we’re doing when we go out is not an issue, so we consider ourselves fortunate in not having to deal with that.  If we did, we could easily explain some of our date nights- we have always believed that even in marriage you should never stop dating your spouse.  Even now, about once a month Veronica and I will get a sitter and go out, just the two of us.  Sometimes, we do wonder if the neighbors suspect anything.  Our friend next door has commented “what do you guys do when you go out so often?”  Of course, this is the same woman who seemingly hasn’t gone out on a date with her hubby in months, so she wouldn’t understand.  We’ve even offered to watch the kids so that they could go out, but they never take us up on the offer.

I can sympathize, I think, with the gay man or woman who is afraid of coming out of the closet.  [Yes, I realize that being gay or bi- is part of who someone is, it's not a choice, while swinging is a choice, something we could give up if we wanted or needed to.  So don't crucify me for that statement, okay?]  Part of me would like to be open about the lifestyle that we lead, that we enjoy sharing ourselves with other lovers and having group sex.  But the reality is that swinging is not acceptable to ‘mainstream’ society and there are possible personal and professional ramifications if certain people knew that Veronica and I are swingers, not to mention if they knew about this blog!!

Along those lines, several months ago Veronica and I created another blog, one that no one who reads this blog will ever know about.  We freely talk about blogging in front of the kids and they’ve obviously meet our blogger friends who have come to visit us.  To protect ourselves in case either of the kids mentions blogging in front of family or vanilla friends, we created that family blog. Which we even occasionally update with typical parents-bragging-about-the-kids kind of stuff!

Veronica:  I have to admit that it is fun having a sexy “secret identity”.  I like being an unassuming civil servant by day and a wanton wench by night. However it is challenging to maintain that secret identity.  I am very glad that I have mine and Hubman’s blogs so we have a place to tell our secrets.  Since all of our relatives live about four hours away, we are spared the issue of prying parents and siblings.  Still it can be challenging to make sure that Hubman and I have identical cover stories for who we are visiting and why, and coming up with a plausible explanation of our new found love of travel and going out.

Since the kids are younger, it is easier to hide where we are going and what (who) we are doing, but once DB stops falling asleep at 9:00pm, we will lose our ability to host and face some new challenges.

Then there are the friends.  The question of “What did you do this weekend?” is one to be dealt with.

We keep ourselves careful to have the “family” laptop and the “naughty” laptop, and never, ever let our family members see our phones.

In the beginning of our swinging we let people meet our children, but we have decided not to do that going forward unless we are very comfortable with them.  I don’t want the kids wondering why they meet people who are very friendly and then they *poof* out of our lives.   If we became friends with a couple we would probably be fine with inviting them to a ‘mixed’ party, as long  as we had a cover story of how we met organized before the party.

I think its possible to blend your two worlds, as long as you are careful about how you do it.

That was an interesting dinner that she’s referring to.  I had a conference in Seattle, Veronica came with me, and our blogger friends Emmy and Garbonzo came up from Portland to meet and spend a few days together.  The four of us ended up going out to dinner one night with my former office-wife Lisa from grad school and the research assistant/”mom” from the lab that Lisa and I trained in.  I really had to work to suppress a grin, looking across the table at one of best friends from my ‘vanilla’ life sitting right next to a very good friend from the ‘naughty’ side of my life.

In response to a tweet I left soliciting comments for this post, WeeBeeTweetin’ wrote to me

That’s a tough one! I can only have RL friends on Facebook, none of the REAL people I’ve met and become friends with from the net

I’m glad she made that comment, because I totally forgot about Facebook!  Veronica and I have perhaps a half-dozen or so bloggers that we’re also friends with on Facebook.  No one has ever said anything to us, but I do wonder if my mom or my sister looks at my Facebook page and wonders who Southern Vixen, M, Emmy, or Garbanzo are [under their real names, of course!].  For us, those are blogger friends that we trust implicitly, and if any family members would ask who they are, we’d use the ‘they’re just old college friends’ excuse.  Between moving around somewhat [7 residences in 4 states over 16 yrs], multiple colleges [5 degrees from 4 schools between the two of us], and my prior military service, it’s entirely plausible to have friends scattered about the country. So in certain instances, we’re comfortable with blog-life and real-life intersecting.  But we’re careful.

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How about you? Whether you’re a swinger, a cheating spouse, into BDSM, or concealing an aspect of your sexuality in any way, how do you keep your secrets? Or don’t you?  Have you ever ended up in an uncomfortable situation because your secret life was discovered?  We’d like to hear your stories, so please share them in the comments.

We’re running out of ideas for future Swing Shift columns.  PLEASE, if you have any questions about the lifestyle whatsoever, don’t be shy about asking us.  Otherwise, this will cease to be a regular weekly feature and we’ll only write   You can leave a comment on this post or e-mail me at hubman38 at gmail dot com.  As always, if you prefer to remain anonymous just let me know that in your e-mail and I’ll honor your request.

The always fabulous Amorous Rocker has come up with the idea of a blogger toy fundraiser, in support of Toys for Tots.  Veronica and I have already made a donation and we’re encouraging you to check out her post to learn more about it.

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  • http://amorouschick.blogspot.com Amorous Rocker

    I was in a very awkward situation when I found out my family knew my blog and a certain relative of mine had formed a creepy fixation on me but you know about that (I think) so no real sense in spewing on about it here. That damaged the good relationship I had with that family member and even now that his fixation is over and he’s in a healthy, functional relationship, I still don’t feel comfortable around him and probably never will again.

    My mom found out I was bisexual by finding my blog. Which was a good thing and a bad thing but that I won’t go into here. Though, it did give me the freedom to be more open about my sexuality. Instead of ignoring comments and other things because I didn’t want to risk them finding out, I have the ability to speak out when something irks me without worry that they’ll find out my “secret” if I say too much or defend something too hard since they know now that I’m bi. Which is also a relief but not always a good thing.

    I used to work quite hard to keep things secret and try to keep the more risque side of my life in the dark. Some things I think about posting but then I think “I wouldn’t want so and so to read this.” So, I don’t post several things I want to and I’m careful in what I do share. It’s a little like censorship in a way but I do it by choice. I think in your case though, your situation is a bit more delicate as you have kids and careers to think of.

    Anyway, lol. =o) Thanks so very much for pimping out my blogger toy fundraiser. I appreciate that a lot! <3

  • http://playfullyyours@blogspot.com Playfully Yours

    Hubman,
    Thanks for putting my comment here. I have to be honest that I did not put everything out there because I wanted to keep it brief.

    I am glad that I had these experiences to be able to explore my BI side. It was fun. The first time I gave a woman an orgasm was incredible.

    One of the things that I started thinking about was….I wonder who are the swingers that I work with (I work in a large business with close to 10,000 people). I looked at them and started thinking she is yummy and I would like that.
    I also wondered if I ever sent my pic to someone I actually know or work with and never heard from.
    I can say that I never did bring anyone from the lifestyle around my vanilla friends. Not because they weren’t great or nice but I had to keep things under control for myself. It would have been easy to slip up or something.

  • Vanilla Kinks

    While hubby and I are now separated, we still get along famously, and I often spend time at the house with him and his girlfriend. His now girlfriend is the wife from the couple we first ever did any swinging with. We all lived under the same roof for over a year, so hiding was not an option.

    We are “out” to some people, and not others. My in-laws, my father and sister all know the whole story behind my split with husband, and if it makes any of them uncomfortable, they have never mentioned it. Thanksgiving was spent with hubby, girlfriend, my in-laws and the 7 children shared between hubby, I and girlfriend. Weird, I know. My sister often asks, “Isn’t it uncomfortable?”, but it never has been for us. It’s just part of who we are. Take it or leave it.

    From what I know hubby and girlfriend are not swinging at this time, and I don’t know if they ever will as a couple. I am still active in the small community around my area, and I’ve never kept this a secret from my husband. If I have a “date”, I always inform him so there won’t be any surprises down the line, and I am always honest with the men I meet about my marital status. I’m married. I have no plans to divorce my husband. Hubby and I are not currently sexually involved. We no longer live together. Of course, men in the swinging community are always okay with this arrangement, but surprisingly, a lot of vanilla men I have met are also okay with it.

    I’m a student, and a select few of my classmates know my situation, and are just fine with it. If someone asks me what’s up, I never lie. I think mostly because I enjoy the shocked look on people’s faces.

  • http://dangerouslilly.com DangerousLilly

    Oye. Well, there’s only one person in RL that knows that I have an open marriage. She’s pretty cool with it, I know that a good friend of hers is openly a swinger and also does those godawful sextoy parties (The ones with only the crappy toys, heh). But she’s pretty religious and wouldn’t approve likely of the rest of my situations.

    My family is very conservative and religious, as well. They’d flip if they knew ANYTHING. Keeping my NYC trips a secret was tough, especially from my mom. She’s the type who likes to call on the weekends ad wants to know where I am, what I’m doing etc. I had to make up an excuse for this last trip because I stayed 2 nights, as to why I wouldn’t be around to talk on the phone. And I can’t even just come up with a vanilla reason for going to NY, because our money problems. I can’t very well tell her that the money for my trip came from advertising and affiliate money from my SEX BLOG.

    My best friend, whom I met thru blogging, was going to sell me one of the cars he works on fixing up back when my Civic was dying. It was again hard to figure out what lie to come up with on how I’m friends with a guy a few states away well enough that he’d give me a car at cost to him.

    There’s so much awesomeness in my life because of blogging and I can’t tell anybody but my husband. It really kinda sucks that way.

  • http://rtws.blogspot.com Emmy

    Garbanzo and I were discussing last night how our “fun friends” can all easily cross into our vanilla friends without risk of exposure of the fun activities. In a couple of cases, they have more of a view into our lives than our vanilla friends do (including blog knowledge and Facebook connections). And each one of them has a built in cover story. One is actually an IT person, one actually has a hobby where it is feasible he and Garbanzo have met, etc. In fact, I used one of the cover stories with my parents a few weeks ago. I felt like I was in high school lying about where I was going, but that brought more humor to the situation rather than stress.

    We are careful about who meets our kids – and thankfully everyone we have been with have had the same caution. We have had to be really careful about talking about blogging with the kids. We have a family ‘vanilla’ blog, but Garbanzo is the king of mentioning a blog in front of family and/or friends. I don’t know how many times I have had to kick him under the table. Thankfully he also has a comic book one which helps that story. But, the kids both have asked about the blog.

    Great topic!

  • Emma B.

    This subject is close to my heart this week. With much sadness I’ve recently decided that I have to back away from my “secret life” (blogging, e-mailing, cheating). I thought I could have it all but I’ve realized that I haven’t really tried to make my marriage work at all as I’ve focused on my secret life. I’ll still keep in touch via your blogs as I can’t imagine tearing myself away from this community completely! xoxo, Emma

  • Elle

    In my case, it’s the kinky stuff and my blog which I have to keep secret. I don’t find it that hard, and in a way, I figure if anybody did find out, so what?

    Many of our friends are kinky, too. One or two of them know I have a kinky blog, and they know I don’t want them to go read it because it’s so personal. I’m sure they’ve sneaked a look or two before, without telling me. But they’re close enough friends, and kinky themselves, so it’s ok I guess.

    I sometimes mention fetish events to some coworkers, the ones I’m closest to. But I try to limit that. They don’t appear to judge, but who knows? Mostly, they’re very curious.

    Aside from that, the only difficulty is keeping my computer “family or friend-safe”. I have a lot of dirty stuff on here and sometimes I leave HNT pictures on my desktop, sex blogs open in my browser, etc. If I know people come over, either I close the laptop (it has a password on startup) or I delete whatever naughtiness is on the desktop, as well as the browsing history and stuff.

    But yeah, so far, so good ;) Oh, I just remembered, my boss asked me once if I had a blog. I said no, and she said she thought I had one…

  • Elle

    I forgot to mention, I’ve told one of my closest internet friends (I met him in real life once) about my blog. He reads it, I think, he’s even occasionally commented. I found it ok to share this with him because I know he’s open-minded, and since we don’t really hang out in RL it’s not THAT embarrassing… :D

  • NY Diva

    The only thing I’ve ever felt compelled to lie about was how Thomas and I met (Adult Friend Finder). His family and friends are very religious and conservative and think it’s weird that people even meet on Match.com or whatever. So AFF? They would all just die. My friends, on the other hand, didn’t even think twice about we met. :) So he came up with a cover story about how we met to tell his people, and I also use that story for coworkers. They all think I’m just being cute and embarrassed when I blush and say that we met at Walmart, but little do they know why I really blush when I say it!

  • Bella

    I’m just now reading your blog and this post caught my attention…too tired to comment much now but this intriques me as Mr. Man and I are just beginning this journey, and we do have a small child so that complicates things…hmmmm…

   

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