In numerous posts we’ve talked about boundaries and the importance of you and your partner discussing and setting them.  Volumes 2, 13, and 16 all dealt with boundaries in one way or another, if you’re interested.  A couple of readers (sorry, I can’t remember who in order to give credit where credit is due) have asked how we go about communicating our boundaries to others.  What’s the point of having boundaries but fail to communicate them to your playmates, right?  Off the top of my head, I can think of 3 ways to do so.

A well-written profile can go a long way towards communicating what you like and dislike (Volume 13 also covers profiles in addition to boundaries), but you don’t want to overdo it either, so it can be a challenge to include them without coming across as narrow-minded or overly picky.

As we’ve written before, we generally don’t play on a first date and prefer to just meet for dinner and drinks somewhere, get to know each other, and see if there is chemistry in-person.  Part of the chemistry and getting-to-know-you bit can help communicate boundaries, masked as likes and dislikes.  Remember Backed into a corner, about the couple I changed my mind about during the 2nd date?  While that couple didn’t work out, during the first date there was a snippet of conversation I can recall that is a good example of what I’m talking about.  During dinner conversation drifted towards good and bad experiences in the lifestyle, and the other girl talked about how one time a guy blew a huge load of cum on her face, which she liked, but could have done without some of it in her eyes.  I’m no dummy and made a mental note that should we end up nekkid together, she just might be amenable to me pulling out and cuming on her.  (Yes ladies, of course I would ask first, even if I knew she liked it!)  At the same time, Veronica quipped “Oh, I don’t like cum on my face at all.  Maybe a little that misses when he cums in my open mouth, but that’s it”.  If the other guy was a good listener, he learned 2 boundaries that Veronica has.

However, not all boundaries are things that you don’t like, oftentimes they can be things that only your primary partner can do with you.  Anal sex is a great example for us.  It’s no secret to longtime readers of my blog that Veronica loves anal sex and even recently learned what her trigger is to make her cum during anal (Note to self: write about that one someday).  On our profile we write “She is very curious to try a DP and is looking for the right man to help us make that happen” which could make another man think he has a shot fucking her ass.  But no, he doesn’t.  I’m the only man that Veronica has ever taken up the ass, and she wants to keep it that way.  If there’s going to be a DP, I’ve got the backdoor taken care of!  However, Veronica has no problem with me having anal sex with other women (yeah me!) so rather than somehow carefully craft a statement about our anal sex boundaries for the profile, we deal with it directly if it comes up.

We recently had a very nice 1st date with a couple and are working on arranging a second date sometime soon.  After that date, the following was part of an e-mail they sent us: “D would love to witness a DP with B and Hubman if Veronica is up to it?”  Part of our reply said “One thing, just so you know, while she loves anal, we’ve mutually decided that her ass is mine and mine only” to which they replied “Fully understand and feel the same.”  With that, we avoided any potential issues when we get together.

Veronica: The real challenge is how to communicate the boundary without getting ahead of yourself.  No one wants to have a profile with an extensive list of what you will NOT do, but you want to communicate those important boundaries about kissing, same vs separate room, or orifices before the clothes come off.   In our experiences in meeting people and reading profiles, we all seem to have the same boundaries, (Nothing involving pee, poop or pain is the standard issue we see in profiles). (Hubman: a LOT of profiles specify exactly those boundaries!) We usually try to be playful about what is important to us and hope that the others get the underlying message behind the humor.   There is also the issue of what is a boundary as opposed to a dislike.  I do not like to be bitten by people.  But it is not something important enough for me to put in a profile or mention up front since most people are not biters.  But when I do encounter a biter, I just smile and say, “No biting, please” and that is usually enough to stop the unwanted behavior.

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As always comments are welcome, about your own experiences with communicating boundaries.  Anyone have any misadventures about unknowingly crossing boundaries that you’d like to share?  Any lingering questions?  Also, future Swing Shift column ideas are always!  Feel free to e-mail me at hubman38 at gmail dot com if you’d prefer to remain anonymous.

  • http://emancipationofbabelincoln.blogspot.com Babe Lincoln

    Boundaries are important in any relationship. And sometimes you don’t even realize you have them… hubby and I have been together for 13 years and our personal “boundaries” have just become routine to us. But were we to ever play with someone else, I’d have to sit down and seriously think about what those boundaries are!

    And sometimes it doesn’t hurt to rethink your perceived boundaries… which is what hubby did to me regarding anal (and I’m glad he did!).

  • http://blue-eyedvixen.com Vixen

    This was a great post. And I agree with what Veronica added, there is a fine line bwtn what should be said ahead of time and what needs to be said beforehand- one on one. Having/setting and making others aware of your boundaries are the only way something like swinging, open marriages, etc can work.

  • Blore

    I’d add that the bulk of the no-no’s should be established before the swinging occasion, perhaps in the last phone conversations or exchange of e-mails. I was once hit with a long list of taboos on arrival. This was better than not at all, but it would have been nice to have had time to absorb them and consider alternatives.

  • T

    Well, I would think that most of it would be chalked up to experience too. The more you do it, the more you realize what you like and don’t like. Maybe you didn’t have a boundary about something until it was mentioned or happened?

    And yes, most of this, as in all relationships, comes from the security of speaking up for yourself. A lot of people don’t even do that in one-on-one relationships.

    Great post!

  • http://rtws.blogspot.com Emmy

    Great post! I have found that I have become really good at communicating boundaries even in the middle of sex. If done right, I have found it is usually respected and won’t mess things up.

    Picking up on the clues as you go is very important.
    ~Emmy

  • http://iveylane.blogspot.com Ivey

    I agree with Babe regarding how many relationship boundaries become so part of the norm that a) you aren’t really sure how they got there and b) how relevant they still are. I always had a firm boundry with Vince about being spanked; even the slightest fanny smack would be met with a exhasperated eye-roll and a “don’t do that.” But when I finally started coming into my own sexually and not being so driven by the tripe I learned growing up, I discovered that I actaully enjoy it! :0 Or at least, from him.

    Now that we’re looking deeper into swinging, I have to decide if that’s something that is strictly between us, or am I open to that experience with others. For now, I think it’s me and him. But the ongoing conversation is always fascinating!

    Thanks for a great post, Hubman.

  • Drew

    My partner knows full well I don’t like pain, particularly nail scratching. Yet in the throws of her orgasm while riding me, she loses complete control and digs into my chest as if she were a cat kneading a couch. She apologizes profusely afterward, but nonetheless, I still end up looking like a scratching post! Moral of the story? Orgasms can’t be reasoned with!

   

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