Jul 082009
 

On Sunday I wrote about feeling a little restless in the lifestyle, and the desire to find another couple to play with.

No joke, within 36 hrs of publishing that post, 5 different couples contacted us.  Even more surprising is that 3 of them come to us via swinglifestyle, which has been dormant for us for several months.  Let’s consider our prospects together, shall we?

First, there is the young couple from Rhode Island.  And by young, I mean really young!  Like he’s 23 and she’s 22 kinda young.  Plus, they’re both smokers.  So they get a polite rejection.

Then there is the hot hot hot couple.  From 60+ miles away in New Hampshire :-(   Maybe if we didn’t have kids that cost us $15/hr for a sitter we’d consider them, but it’s just not practical.  Which is exactly what I tell them- they’re hot and we’d like to meet, but they’re too far away.

Next, a couple from reasonably close by.  But we’re not just seeing a connection, so we polite reject them.

Oh, this next one is fun, courtesy of Swappernet.  Before I tell you about their message to us, consider this snippet from our profile:

Keep in mind that we have small children and while we have several dependable sitters, sometimes we’re not as free to get out as we would like.

After reading that, what do you think of this message, sent at 4:30PM Sunday?:

Hey guys care to jion us for a night cap tonight ?? :)

Seriously?  Obviously they haven’t even bothered to read our profile.  Then I look at their profile, because I’m curious, and I recognize them, realizing that they’ve sent us the same message before, on Swinglifestyle!  Here is that earlier message, from 3 months ago:

Always looking for late eve night caps ourselves .. if your ever interested !! we can host !! :) Licks

Apparently, they must think their tactic works, since they’re still using it.  In both cases we deleted their messages without replying.  If they can’t at least read our profile and acknowledge the limitations our kids place on our adult playtime, we won’t give them the courtesy of a reply.  And now that I think about it, did they really think we’d accept an offer to show up at their house without ever talking or meeting first?  Pretty presumptuous, if you ask me.

And then I kid you not, a mere 45 minutes later it happens again:

how was your weekend, we don’t want ours to end…can you guys get out for a drink?

But this time it’s different.  This is a couple that we’ve exchanged several messages with several weeks ago.  We thought there might be a good connection with them and we offered up our phone numbers on more than one occasion.  But they never called, so we though they might have changed their mind.  Apparently not!

I reply, thanking them for the offer, but remind them that we have 2 young kids and getting out on the spur-of-the-moment isn’t practical.  She replies:

I know its hard 4 u guys…but i thought we would try;) will give u a call shortly if its a good time??

She and Veronica ended up having a nice chat on Sunday evening.

And we have a dinner date with them on Thursday :-)

Happy Hump Day!

Bo1_500

Jun 242009
 

Walking out of the restaurant, admiring her lean legs and the way her dress accentuates her beautiful figure.  Resting my hand on her hip on the way to the car, feeling the waistband of what is certainly a thong.

The way she looks when my cock is in her mouth.

The satisfied smile as she pulls back from taking me as deep as she can.

The way this forty-something mom sounds so young and sweet and innocent as I slip inside her.

The trim, strong runners legs, flat tummy and oh-s0-sexy ass.  Never mind her breasts, oh my…

But the image I can’t get out of my mind is the position and view that has made me cum every single time I’m with her.  Those strong legs on my shoulders, my body weight pining her to the floor.  Looking down between our legs, seeing my cock pistoning in and out of her as my climax nears.  My gaze drifting upwards, past her sexy mid-section, those fabulous breasts, finally focusing in on her pretty face, the happy and contented smile, looking right into her eyes, as we cum together.

Is it any wonder that I’m looking forward to seeing her again?  Whenever that may be…

It’s a good thing that her husband and Veronica get along so well, too!

Happy Hump Day!

floating beauties

 

For whatever reason, some of you out there in the blogosphere seem to think that Veronica and I have some experience in the lifestyle and can be helpful.  In the past several months, no less than 8-10 individuals have contacted us privately, seeking advice about the lifestyle.  Which is perhaps ironic, since as we were getting involved in the lifestyle ourselves we relied heavily on the advice of our dear friend SwingerWife, to the point that we were texting back and forth with her as we were driving to our very first ‘date’ with another couple.  We’ve benefitted greatly from not only her advice, but from a host of other people who we’ve met in the lifestyle and have helped us out along the way.

I guess the myriad of lifestyle websites are too impersonal or something.  Maybe knowing that we’re ‘real’ people, who have had our fair share of struggles, successes, conflicts, amazing experiences, and mis-communications holds some appeal.

We’d like to think that any advice we’ve given has been helpful, or at least not harmful, so I think it’s time for “Hubman and Veronica’s Swinger’s Advice Service” to open for business!

And the first order of business will be to come up with a better name, because that one sucks…

The only acceptable form of payment will be nekkid pictures.  That or sexual favors ;-)

Seriously, stealing from the regular “Ask the Hot Dads” column that I contribute too [new post up on Monday, by the way...], I think I might start a semi-regular feature where I take readers questions, anonymously if desired, and answer them in a post.  What do you think, would you be interested?  I think we owe it to the people that have helped us to in turn help others, if possible.  Veronica would give her perspective as well, of course.

Communication issues.  Performance anxiety.  How to write a good profile on a website.  What are parties really like.  Avoiding jealousy. Full- or soft-swap, and what’s the difference anyway?  Safe sex concerns.  Nothing would be off-limits, no concern too big or too small.

So leave a comment or e-mail me [address on the left in the "About me..." section] and leave me your questions.  If you’d prefer that we keep your identity anonymous, just say so.  And if you have a question and would prefer we don’t write a post about it, we’d still be more than happy to answer it anyway.

Darling Boy in a few more years-

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Have a good Monday!  I know I will, I’m on vacation :-D

 

Veronica and I have been very upfront with our involvement in the swinging lifestyle.  Our goal has always been to find a couple, or two, that we could be see on a semi-regular basis for fun and pleasure. We’re not looking to become bed-post notchers, always on the lookout for the next conquest.  Every couple we’ve swapped with was with the hope that the relationship would grow, but it hasn’t always worked out that way.

Until now.  We think…

Red and Sonja are a special couple to us, and apparently we are to them as well.  In the course of exchanging text messages, e-mails and IMs since we had nekkid fun together, we’ve discussed the idea of keeping our relationship ‘off-blog’, as they are the first local couple that we’ve hooked up with who knows Veronica and I as bloggers first.  So unless something really, really extraordinary happens, you won’t be reading much if anything about our time with them anymore.  The bottom line is that our friendship with them is more important to us than writing about what we do in the course of that friendship.  Y’all wondered what would happen when I mentioned that we were getting involved with another blogger couple?  Now you know!

But don’t despair, because we’re still looking for that second couple.

Which leads me to the title of this post…

About a month ago, Veronica and I had dinner with Jen and Tom at a local restaurant.  They are about our age, with similar interests and background, and they are h-o-t hot hot hot!  But it gets even better.  I’m not kidding when I say that we could walk to their house from ours!  Their street is about a mile and a half from ours!

Unfortunately, they both travel extensively for work and we knew at the time of our first date that we would not be able to get together with them for at least a month.  So we kept ourselves open to offers from other couples for first dates.  Apparently, the main picture on our profile, of Veronica’s ass [the main picture in this post], gets a lot of interest.  Any idea why?

For about the last month and a half we have been putting off making a date with another couple.  Not for lack of attraction, because if that was the case we’d politely tell them that we’re not interested, but because of scheduling issues.  Finally, earlier this week we set a date for tonight, to meet at a restaurant and club just over in Rhode Island.

And then on Thursday we got a message from Jen and Tom.  They’re back in the area and would like to see us tonight!

Crap.

[I know, cry you a river, here we are having to decide which hot couple to get together with.  I suppose our problems could be worse!]

So do we keep the first date with the couple we haven’t meet yet?  Or do we break the date in favor of Jen and Tom, whom we’ve already met and know the chemistry is there?

Of course we break the date!  While we told a lie and said that the sitter canceled on us, at least we did it over the phone instead of an e-mail.  After all, we would like to meet them.  Just not tonight…

I think it’s time to edit our profile and let people know that we’re not looking for a couple right now.  Just this morning we got contacted by yet another couple.  I’m not kidding when I say that in the last week, at least 5 couples have contacted us.

It must be Veronica’s fault.  ‘Cause I’m not that hot ;-)

Jun 092009
 

Keeping track of various blogger and lifestyle friends can be really confusing sometimes.  You see, there are no less than 7 women with the same name that we know primarily through the internet.  5 of our blogger friends have this name, as do two women we know in lifestyle circles, one whom we’ve had a first date with and the other a first date is near.

Who are you IM’ing with, honey?

I’m chatting with ****?

Which one?

The one from SwapperNet…

Which one?

To make matters worse, when we’re referring to the blogger friends with this name, saying “The one from Rhode Island” or “The one from Minnesota” doesn’t even help!  There’s still more than 1!!

You see what I mean?  Of course, this was the number 1 girls name the year I was born, so I shouldn’t be surprised at the number of women with this name, but still…

On to this weeks questions!

Have you ever…

1. had sex with someone ten years older or younger than you?
Almost and yes.  A recent partner [who I can't wait to see again!] is about 8 yrs older than me.  Ann, aka my worst lay ever, was 13 yrs younger.  And there was another woman, never written about, who was at least 10 yrs younger.  But unlike Ann, she was pretty damn good :-)
2. drawn from a nude model or been a nude model?
My artistic talents are pretty much non-existent, so no to drawn.  Do HNTs count, though?  God knows there are plenty of nude pictures of me!
3. had sex at a company Christmas party?
Not at it, but afterwards Veronica and I drove to her office for the express purpose of fucking on her desk.
Hey Veronica, think we could do that again?  Go to your office after hours?
4. had a blind date?
A true blind date, nope and I don’t feel like I’m missing anything.
5. slept with a teacher?
Just about everyone I’ve slept with has taught me something, so I’m gonna say yes!  Don’t think any of them were teachers in the traditional sense, though…
Bonus (as in optional): had sex with someone within an hour of meeting them?
Very close.  I think I knew Darla for about 3 hours before I slipped inside her from behind.  Mmm, happy memories…
And now that I think about it, once we met in person, I don’t think it was more than 2 hours before SwingerWife and I had sex.  But we already knew each other for about a month, so maybe that doesn’t count.
Have a great day everyone!!
May 102009
 

After some frustration with Dina and Derek this weekend [patience, dear reader, I'll get to it...] I realized that there are several couples that have come into our lives and then quietly disappeared.  And shame on me, I never told you what happened with them.  Because I know that you’ve been losing sleep at night, wondering about Max and Erma ;-)

So let’s start with them.  Several months ago I wrote this post about our evening with them.  As it turns out, one of their kids [ranging in age from 7-12] asked the next morning “What did I hear going on downstairs last night?”  Oops…  So they told us that since they were no longer comfortable hosting but also were not willing to get a sitter that they would be taking a hiatus from the lifestyle.  We let them know that we understood and respected their feelings and if they changed their minds they knew where to find us.  We haven’t heard from them since.  Which is a shame, because we really liked them.

Then there was Darla and Steve, our first hotel party swapping partners.  We’ve found each other on our new favorite lifestyle website and have exchanged a few messages but nothing more.  It would be nice to see them again but for some reason we haven’t made it a priority.

Which leads us to Stacy and Evan.  While we never swapped with them, they did get mentioned in 4 or 5 posts, including this goodbye to them.  She and I chatted once or twice on Yahoo Messenger since that last post and I was very vague about future availability.  She got the message and has not tried to initiate a chat since.  We’re convinced that while they call themselves swingers and have a profile on a swingers website, they never have any intention of actually swapping.  If anything, she’s looking to fuck around without him.

I can’t forget about Sarah either.  How could I, when Veronica got a text message from her just this morning saying “Happy mothers day you hot sexy mother.”  Unfortunately, we haven’t actually seen her since December, believe it or not.  Plans have been made numerous times, but something always seems to come up, then weeks go by and they try to arrange something, to no avail.  We’ve even let her know that we don’t need to make grand plans and would be happy to be her booty call.  Hell, if she called Veronica today and said “Want to get together tonight?” we’d be thrilled to see her again.  Or even if she and Veronica want to get together without me.  Hell, that’s how their relationship started!  Maybe one of these days…

About the frustration I alluded to…

Derek and Dina were supposed to come over Saturday afternoon, bring her 3 yr old daughter, and spend the night with us.  We had a non-naughty date with them 2 weeks ago, after our first swap, and introduced our respective kids to each other, so we knew that her daughter and PP would get along.  Then mid-afternoon she called and had to cancel, saying that Derek was getting called into work on some emergency.  No problem, shit happens.  Veronica suggested that we could try again tomorrow [i.e. today], minus the sleepover, and the ladies left it at “Let’s chat tomorrow to finalize plans.”

Veronica called and left a message around 11am.  We hadn’t heard back so she left another message around 3pm.  No reply.  Veronica sent her a text message at 5pm.  Still no reply.  As I sit here writing this around 9:30pm we still haven’t heard from them.

Frankly, I’m pissed.  Not because of the missed sex with her.  I have Veronica, the love of my life, who is all I really need.  As I’ve written before, the lifestyle is just sport-fucking, for the fun of it.  What I’m pissed about is 2-fold.  We’ve developed a nice friendship with them.  Or, at least we thought we did.  But in my world, that’s not how friends treat friends.  Maybe she’ll call tomorrow and there is a perfectly reasonable story explaining why they blew us off today. But still, how long does it take to make a call and say “sorry to do this again, but something’s come up”?  Is that asking for too much?  I don’t think so.

What bugs me even more, though, is that I let the whole thing affect my mood today.  I mean, it’s mothers day and I’m letting some couple interfere with what turned out to be a wonderful day at home with my family.  Just before dinner I pulled Veronica aside and apologized, not just for my mood but for the reason behind it.

Right now I’m sorely tempted to say goodbye to them.  But Veronica is the more level-headed one, so perhaps it’s best that I don’t talk to Dina first.  We’ll see what happens.

 

I received the following e-mail the other day:

Hello,

I was just looking through your blog and I feel that you would be a great fit for our Affiliate Program at edenfantasys.com Eden Fantasys is one of the largest online adult toy retailers. http://www.edenfantasys.com/programs.

If you are interested in using your blog to earn some extra money through our Affiliate Program, review adult toys, or even work together in hosting contests, giveaways or promotions please let me know. I will be happy to answer any questions that you might have. I have included brief program summaries at the bottom of this e-mail.

Me?  Really?  Do these guys have any idea just how few visitors I get on a daily basis?  If they’re seriously trying to get more sales, I think they could do a lot better than me!

But I am thinking about it!  If anything, the prospect of free toys may make it worthwhile.  We’ll see…

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Veronica and I joined a different swingers website over the weekend.

This one is interesting- it allows you to include your instant messenger username in your contact info, which greatly facilitates contacting a couple you may be interested in.  Of course, with the good comes the bad [or ugly, as the case may be...] and contact from couples we have NO interest in.  Oh well.

Like other lifestyle websites, there are options for public and private photo galleries.  For those of you familiar with Ashley Madison, I suppose it’s similar to giving someone a passkey to see pictures.

But what is it with couples who are hundreds if not thousands of miles away giving us access to their private galleries?  We’ve had couples in NY, Michigan, Ohio and Florida give us access.  WTF?

Have we made any connections yet?

You’ll just have to wait…

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As I’m writing this post, Veronica gets home from the gym.

I got spanked!

Say what?  It turns out that she did a kick boxing class and during the class there was some “exercise” where you smack your own ass.  Apparently Veronica’s self-spanking did not meet the instructors approval, so she came over to “demonstrate” for her.  Which led to Veronica declaring

Any place where there is a hot aerobics instructor who smacks me on the ass is a place I want to be!

Me too!

Happy Hump Day!

11-lrg

 

Most of the time Veronica and I do very well at reading each others moods and sensing when something is amiss.

Work has been stressful lately.  You know those times when for every item you get off the almighty to-do list, 2 more appear?  Yeah, that’s been my life at work lately.

Veronica has also been very busy and stressed at work.  This coming week will be the first one this year where she won’t have an evening meeting.  Hell, twice this past week we got into bed, looked at each other, and said “Nah, I’d rather go to sleep.”  [I know, cry you a river...  For us, that's highly unusual.]  Combine all this, and neither of us was at the top of our games, so to speak, communication-wise.

Part of what has been bugging me is a lack of communication with others and an absence of play on the swinging front.  Sure, we’ve had a date or two and some fun webcam play with a couple [whom we haven't written about yet.  If and when something physical happens with them, then I'll write something!], but for the most parts everything has been a waste of time.  Finding playmates was starting to become a chore and I was seriously ready to take a break.  Plus, we haven’t seen Sarah in ages.  Every time plans get made, they get canceled.  Yes, every time is completely understandable and we know full well it’s not personal, but still, it gets frustrating.

But I didn’t want to talk to Veronica about any of this.  And therein lies the problem.

I was afraid to bring it up, because it’s all about sex with other women.  Would she think that I’m obsessing over others and not thinking as much about her?  That finding and fucking other women has become more important than our own sex life?

So I kept my thoughts to myself.  Which is a dangerous thing.  When something is bugging me, I benefit greatly from sharing my thoughts and talking it out.  Just getting to vent helps.  To compound it, a very close and dear blog friend, who would understand what I’m talking about, was one of the people I couldn’t reach, at least when I needed it the most.  But that’s the nature of our blog friendships for many of us.  We all have jobs, families, friends, many of whom may have no idea about our blogs.  So sometimes that person may not be able to reply to that text message or voicemail, because they can’t.  I lost sight of that.

The same applies to others in the lifestyle.  Family, work, whatever, gets in the way and you go for a few days without checking that e-mail account and can’t take that phonecall at that time.  Again, I lost sight of that.

Veronica:  The week was stressful for me as well.  Did you know that the windshield wipers on a car has a transmission?  I did not know that either until mine broke and cost $400 to repair.  Monday I spent about 4 hours dealing with an employee that was throwing around ‘hostile work environment’ and ‘harassment’.   I get home and we celebrate PP’s birthday.  The kids are asleep and ’24′ is over and I invite Hubman to naughtiness in the bedroom.  He tells me that he is tired.  No problem, and off to sleep we go.  As we are settling in, he mentions that he is concerned that Dina who is part of the couple we recently cammed with, is not into him.  I tell him that I don’t think that is the case and I promise to call her tomorrow to verify.

Tuesday comes and Hubman and I are at work.   I give Dina a call and leave a message.   I call her again on the way home from my evening meeting and leave a message.  I also call Sarah as well and leave a message.  The kids are asleep when I get home and start to vigorously kiss Hubman hello.  He pulls away with a grunt and starts to stare at the computer.  “Well welcome home to me!”  I think.  I go into the kitchen and put away the salad stuff I picked up.  He and I go off to bed.  We chat a little about his frustrations and She likes it rough followed.

Hubman goes to sleep, and I do too with a smile thinking, “Bad mood dissolved, mission accomplished.”

Wednesday came.  Hubman was still edgy.  I was befuddled.  We had very hot sex last night.  I fed him a tasty dinner.  The house was a little messy but I have seen it a lot worse.  Why is he in a bad mood?  He asks, “Did you talk to Dina today?”  Motherfucker.  It’s them.  He’s in a mood because the ladies have not been returning his calls.  I tell him I did not and that I would call once I got everything cleaned up from dinner.  I called Dina and spent the rest of the night restless, pacing the house tidying and praying for the phone to ring.  These efforts exhausted me and I was too tired to break in our new mattress that night.

Thursday comes.  Hubman is a little edgy but not bad.  We go to bed and break in our new mattress, yet I feel that he is distracted.  Afterwards we talk.  He complains about the people and I go into fixer mode.  I suggest that we try another website and focus our energy on parties.  He informs me that he does not like our profile name.  I am getting really cranky now.  I have been spending the week trying to get to the bottom of his bad mood and dissolve it.  And while I usually don’t mind, this week is one of the few times I do not have the patience for this.  My week has been long and extremely stressful with no reprieve in sight. Hubman and I chat and plot some more  and with a solid action plan in place he feels better and goes to sleep.  Later I fall into a restless, fitfull sleep.

It’s now Friday.  I am exhausted having been up at 5am the day before and not asleep before midnight that night.  I am raw and irritable.  Even though Hubman has not expressly said that the lack of communication from the ladies this week was the cause of his continuing angst, I knew that it was.  But I did not want to broach the subject with him as I did not want to cause him to get into a bad mood. I was feeling tentative yet irritated.  I can see being irritable because of work,  or the house looked like it required an intervention from FEMA, but to be irritable all week because some women he wanted to fuck weren’t calling us back really annoyed me.  Is he that desperate to fuck other women?

Hubman is in a better mood and does not seem to notice my masked angst as he heads to work.  My mood has not improved. I yell at the kids and by the time I get to work I am exhausted and literally on my last nerve.  Thankfully my boss started his weekend early so I did as well so I could take a nap.

Refreshed and relaxed my mood was improved and I was intent on enjoying the evening.

To be honest, when I asked Veronica to add her thoughts to this post, I did not expect a complete recap of the week.  But she wrote it, so there it is. One thing that did bother me was she did not acknowledge that she too has been frustrated about the lack of play with others.  She even wrote about it last week.  I pointed that omission out and she said “Oops, forget to mention that.”  It wasn’t just me who was getting frustrated!

While my mood was influenced by a number of factors, only one of which was other women in our life, from her perspective, that was the only reason.  Part of the reason she didn’t know about the other stressors in my life this week is because I knew how stressful her week was, so I held back.  If I hadn’t done so, she would have a better perspective on what was bothering me.

Friday night we had a date.  Just the two us, doing what we used to do before swinging, going out for a nice peaceful dinner without the kids [OK, not so peaceful, with the damn waitstaff singing happy birthday to not 1, not 2, but 3 different customers while we were there!], a little time at our favorite strip club and some hot sex when we got home.

No sooner than we pulled away from the house did we start talking, clearing the air.  It was exactly what we needed, just 2 or 3 days late.  Not too late, because no harm was done, but we could have both saved ourselves a little emotional turmoil and angst if one of us initiated a conversation earlier.

I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again, communication is the most important thing for a couple in the lifestyle.  This past week Veronica and I forgot that.

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Epilogue:  We had a great date night and lots of fun at the club.  We both got lap dances from the same gorgeous blonde [Veronica and she even played with each others tits!], during the drive home I finger-fucked her to orgasm, she blew me for a bit while I was driving on the interstate, and we had fantastic sex once we got home!

With it rains, it pours, with potential playmates. Just before we left for our date, Dina popped up on Yahoo Messenger to say hi and apologize for not getting back to us all week.  Then on Saturday Veronica confirmed a date with Sarah for one day this week!

All is well  :-D

Perceptions

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Mar 282009
 

What is it with you people?  Just how busy do you think Veronica and I are in the lifestyle?

[I mean that tongue-in-cheek.  I really don't care how busy you think we are...]

Looking at the Chat folder in my Gmail account, here are snippets from 3 of my last 5 chats, each with a different blogger friend who shall remain nameless:

Blogger friend 1, Friday afternoon: Any ‘naughty’ plans for the weekend?

Blogger friend 2, Saturday morning: So…riddle me this Hubman….   Just how is it that you keep all your ladies organized?

Blogger friend 3, also Saturday morning: Any plans for debauchery this weekend?

Really, I’m flattered (I think…) that there is the perception that Veronica and I are  out and about all the time.  Sure, we’ve had a few dates with other couples lately, but we haven’t gotten nekkid with anyone else in a month.

So here is what we did on Saturday night (besides draft this post): folded laundry, took a shower, gave the kids baths, downloaded GPS data from my bike ride earlier in the day, and had a small dish of ice cream.  About the naughtiest thing is that Veronica bought the full-fat instead of reduced-fat Breyers!!

Once the kids are asleep, though, everything changes.  Veronica has suggested a visit from one of her role play characters and getting out the sex swing, so we will be getting naughty in a little while, but just the 2 of us.  Oh, and we’ll have the camera handy, so perhaps we’ll share something another time…

Now about keeping track of “all my ladies”, I just have one word- spreadsheet!!!

Kidding, just kidding!

[Though I have thought about it ;-) ]

Seriously, except for the once-a-month or so swingers party or date leading to nekkidness, Veronica and I are just like any other married couple with young kids.  Between her blog and mine, I hope you’ve learned that about us.

Definitions

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Mar 112009
 

I originally started this post about 2 weeks ago and it’s been sitting unfinished since then.  But then yesterdays TMI Tuesday question “Do you consider online cybering adultery?” and the varying responses I saw around the blogosphere inspired me to finish this post.

One comment in particular caught my attention.  The lovely Ms. Inconspicuous wrote:

Though this varies somewhat by culture, and, actually, “adultery” does not, by definition, always distinguish between unsanctioned and sanctioned sex.  You can still be an adulterer by definition even if your spouse gives you full, total, knowing consent to have sex with another.

But I’m not an adulterer!  Veronica and I are swingers, dammit!  That’s different!

So this brought me back to my original draft about the various terms that those of us who have sex with someone other than our spouse use to describe ourselves.

What do you think when you hear:

Swinger?

Open Marriage?

Hotwife?

Are they all the same thing?

Sadie seems to think so, based on her comment on my Adultery post, which is what originally got me thinking about this topic.  She commented that “Well, you say on one hand that you don’t have an open marriage, and that you and V play only “together”, yet, you’d hook up with Swingerwife or SoVix alone? That sounds pretty darn open, Hubman!”.

If you ask me what Veronica and I are, I would answer swingers.

Why? Because we have sex with others, but only participate in those adventures together.  Sometimes in the same room, on the same bed even, definitely in the same place and at the same time.

[The part about SW or SoVix is due to geography.  Neither of them live near us.  If I happen to travel for work and could see either of them, Veronica would be OK with my reconnecting with them.  But that's an exception to our rule, in large part because she knows and trusts them.]

Let’s check what the Urban Dictionary says [I’m a geek, I check reference sources…]

Swinger: A married person who enjoys swapping spouses with another married couple.

Sounds like us!

So why not an “open marriage”?

To me, an open marriage is one in which both halves of a couple are free to seek out other partners, on their own.  As swingers, we do the same, but together, so that definition  doesn’t seem right to me.

Back to the Urban Dictionary!

Open marriage: When a married couple decides to open their marriage, hence permitting the other partner to engage in sexual relations or emotional relations with additional partners, male or female. Usually the married couple is considered the “Primary Couple”.  Sometimes having an open marriage includes having group sex with other married couples.  Open marriages always try to base their relationship on complete honesty and mutual respect. Open marriages are hard work and both partners must feel comfortable with the situation for it to able to work. Both partners involved in the primary relationship must be very mature and able to control jealousy.

Wow, that is pretty damn accurate!  I really like the parts about honesty, mutual respect, controlling jealousy and the hard work that such an arrangement requires.  Maybe I was wrong and we do have an open marriage.

And what about Hotwife?

I think of a couple where one half is free to go fuck others and the spouse does not seek other partners; rather he or she is aroused by the idea of their partner out and having sex with someone else.

Hotwife: A married woman who has the feedom in her marriage to pursue sexual relationships with men other than her husband. Her husband has full knowledge of her activities and consents to them.

That’s kind of vague to me and doesn’t seem much different than the others.  Though it could apply to us, since I’m cool with Veronica seeing Sarah without me.  Of course I prefer to be there…

But you know what?  I don’t care what you label me with, if anything.

I’m Hubman, my wife is Veronica, and we’re swingers.

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The Urban Dictionary is similar to Wikipedia in that anyone can add or edit entries.  Which can result in some interesting entries, such as this alternative definition for ‘open marriage’:

A total oxymoron and falacy. An act of sexual immorality between a married couple. When a married couple, due to their sexual deviancy, agrees to have multiple sex partners, i.e. a married couple agrees to cheat on each other. This is totally stupid and oxymoronic because the word marriage suggests monogamy. Thats why a couple gets married. If they do not want to practice monogamy and commitment, then why get married? I don’t feel as though ANY marriage can surivive as an open marriage.

To this contributor I paraphrase Adrian Cronauer: “Sir, you are in more dire need of a blowjob then any man in history!”

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